Advise is gud but not for our vote bank emotions

2008-12-19T23:12:00.000-08:00

[Seculars of India]: We can't do this with terrorists , our muslim vote bank will get upset. Your advise is good for national interest but it is not good for us. This stupid colonel is Hindu extremist .
No Islamic burial for Mumbai terrorists
Colonel Dr Anil Athale (retd)

courtesy : http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/dec/19mumterror-no-islamic-burial-for-mumbai-terrorists.htm

December 19, 2008
It has been over nine years since I have been pleading that Pakistani terrorists killed in India should not be given a traditional Islamic burial. All these years my plea has fallen on deaf ears.
Writing on strategic and security issues is a tricky affair. One reason one writes is to generally share one's experience and help in sensitising the general reader on this all important issue. But there is another motive as well, and that is to contribute and help the authorities with ideas and suggestions. By its very nature these have to remain confidential, so that the concerned bureaucrat/policeman/soldier can take credit. Establishments the world over hate an 'outsider' advising them. I have strictly followed this rule, but wish to break it this once for the issue is far too grave to be left to the tender mercies of the 'establishment'.
As a frequent visitor to the trouble-torn Kashmir valley, I have been appalled that out of a mistaken sense of decency, we have been permitting the local Waqf board to take charge of the slain foreign terrorists's bodies and bury them with religious rites. There is a 'foreign militants' graveyard in Kashmir that is a site of pilgrimage for the separatists.
One can understand Indian terrorists being buried in India, for howsoever misguided, they are Indians. But pray what are Chechens, Arabs, Afghans, you name it, doing in Kashmir? By permitting this 'atrocity' we the people of India have 'internationalised' the Kashmir issue and even legitimised the role of international jihadis.
Even during the Kargil [Images] border conflict in 1999, we had sufficient evidence to show to the world that regular Pakistani army soldiers from the Northern Infantry had taken part in the fighting. I had then suggested that we bring down those dead bodies to the Wagah border and hand them over to the Pakistanis in full media glare. Let them refuse to take the bodies -- which they could not have due to pressure of the families. But again due to reasons of 'decency' we refrained from doing so.
The bodies of nine psychopath killers involved in the Mumbai massacre are today similarly waiting for claimants. Pakistan has already disowned them. We should now dispose them off as per procedure adopted for unclaimed bodies. At no cost should they be handed over to the Waqf board for an Islamic burial. Earlier, in the case of the attack on the Akshardham temple [Images] in Ahmedabad [Images] or elsewhere, this has been the practice.
It is believed that the lone terrorist in police custody is proving to be resistant to interrogation. It is futile to expect a fanatic to break down. In fact, the biggest problem we face is the 'suicide attacker' who is not afraid of death. He is convinced that in the afterlife he will go to heaven. But here it should be possible to turn his own fanaticism against him. While the jihadi is not afraid of dying, he is fearful of not getting a proper Islamic burial. He is conditioned to believe that should that happen then he will not go to heaven.
This gives us the golden opportunity to get to the mind of the captured terrorist. By demonstrating that the nine of his colleagues are denied a burial he can be pressured to tell all that he knows by merely promising him a decent burial should he come clean with all the information.
By publicly denying a burial to the killed terrorists, with enough publicity worldwide, we can hopefully make a dent in the brainwashing of the would-be suicide bombers that since they are not assured of an Islamic burial they will not go to heaven. Maybe, just maybe, that may dissuade some of them to desist from carrying out suicide missions.
[Seculars of India]: We can't do this with terrorists , our muslim vote bank will get upset. Your advise is good for national interest but it is not good for us. This stupid colonel is Hindu extremist .
Colonel Athale is the Chhattrapati Shivaji Fellow at the United Services Institute, New Delhi [Images], working on a project on internal security. He is also coordinator of the Pune-based think tank Inpad.

A R Antulay an Congress dilemma

2008-12-19T21:50:00.000-08:00

A Central minister standing in parliament is asking "who asked Karkare to go Cama hospital?".
Stating shamelessly in front of media "Why will terrorist kill Karkare, they don't recognise him"
It raises doubts in common man mind.
How come Antulay so assured about terrorist plan?

Now see the congress party reaction .
Mr. singhavi : It is Antulay's personal opinion
My question is Parliament is not a public party , antulay's home or mosque where he is free to express his personal opinion.
Pakistan and Zardari are ready to use any statement in there favour which is coming from Indian central minister.
Why congress is not terminating him or asking for resignation?
1. He is not a hindu or shik . If he were a hindu minister, he could have sacked immediately.
2. If he were a hindu minister then All Secular neta were shouting for his resignation.
3. Even Congress legislature were condemmning him for such statement and could have requested soniya to expell him from congress.And quite possibley he was forced to resign.

But the ground fact is Antualy is a muslim.
1. congress (soniya) and leaders will understand the political consequences of sacking him.
2. Asking him to resign will make congress non secular and will hurt congress vote bank in next election.

These are the few facts of congress , how does it take decision on national interest issues.
Zardari had already took U turn . Pakis and Zardari are now quoting Antualys to prove the terrorists are not pakis .

But Still CONGRESS is thinking of whether it should ask antulay to resign or not?
How secular congress is? disgusting!
Soniya ji let me refresh your definition of secularism
Secularism is taking desicions without concidering the religion of person, group or institution.
If you are thinking reaction of muslims after asking resignation.
Any way this is the legacy of congress. Talking and preventing muslims (non-terrorists,terrorists & supporter of terrorists) is secularism .

Talking about India interest first is hindu terrorism.
According to one muslim web site.

Non muslim voter turn out in US 2008 election was approx 60%
Where Muslim voter turnout was 95%.

If we apply same formula in Indian Scenarion than we can understand why commis,congi and all party bother too much about muslim votes. Apart from that all muslim vote to a person decided by their clerics.

What kind of secularism is it?

Advise is gud but not for our vote bank emotions

A R Antulay an Congress dilemma